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1 year ago
SolsticeMoon
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Mole Market - Concerns With Limited Cycling Inventory

With how the MM currently works it can be incredibly frustrating to find the right item, especially recipes for mining equipment. Doubly so considering you can only get those in the MM. However, I'm also worried about how this will scale with the site's growth. I feel we're already seeing negative ramifications with the new items released with the launch. If the system remains the same throughout this will only get worse and worse. Yes, the flea market and asking on the Discord is an option, but I don't feel like that should be the solution. That depends on player generosity, availability, and social interaction, which is not always what a person wants out of a pet sim experience.

Currently, I have a few ideas that could help with this. Honestly, I don't think any one of these is a ‘cure-all’ on its own, and the best solution may entail multiple:

  1. Add more inventory slots to each shop category. The most obvious one, but IMO, a needed one.
  2. Add an option to reroll item listings at a price. Maybe make it like with hunting, five refreshes for pebbles, and resets at rollover. Of course, this shouldn't affect the free item timer and should be more costly than hunting's charge.
  3. Quicker automated shop refreshes. Personally, I don't feel like this would help on its own, and it begs the question of how to handle the free item timer. Even if it stays the same it may be confusing to have two separate timers?
  4. Add more shop categories. Really with this one, all I can imagine is separating clothing recipes and profession recipes into their own category in the shop, that way there's a cycling of both types.

All of this would make things ‘easier’ but considering that mining recipes are incredibly important for progression and the MM is the only place you can get them, I don't think it's too egregious to ask for. As well as the general issue of scaling with all items. Crafting materials, specific cooking ingredients, seeds, etc. The more items this game gets, the more frustrating this issue will get if not resolved.

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1 year ago
Vissyn
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Supporting this because it's VERY difficult to get the silver gorget. I never see it. Maybe even skew towards getting items you don't have learned?


With more items showing up in the shop, we'll have more desirable pebble drains as well.

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Stellori
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Yeah, support for something. It took me days to get the silver pickaxe after I hit the second mining area, and even longer to get the silver sword. I think more inventory slots would be best (and we really need it for apparel at least… I want to see the stuff that isn't mushrooms/noses more often.), and also maybe have recipes you have not learned yet have a higher chance of showing up.

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1 year ago

After struggling to just get seeds I can plant at level one farming yesterday and had to wait 4 hours for a chance at more corn, it made me really wish the shop refreshed more often or something that made the game more playable. I definitely support improvements to availability to items from the MM!!

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1 year ago

Support. With all the new food items, getting the items I need from the food shop has been a tremendous pain. More space would help with this a lot.

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I Support this.

I think the solution would have to refresh MM every hour, so players have a greater chance to find what they need. Plus, that makes a fine pebble sink, if people have more opportunity to spend on things they want, they will spend more. The "free" item should stay as it is every 6 hours, that makes players have to think about when to use it "do I use it now or do I wait to have a better MM". The only thing I would modify about the "free" item is that it can't choose ad item you bought the whole stock.

I regularly buy the whole stock of some items, and I'm still rewarded with that same item that makes no sense. If that crazy mole can find one more, why can't I just buy more? If the stock is empty, it's empty. Plus that adds to the pebble sink aspect, if you see something you really really want, maybe you'll be more inclined to buy the stock of some items to get a better chance to get that one item you want.

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1 year ago
Vissyn
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Coming back to this and I do still think we need a better inventory cycling. Maybe also make seeds unlimited. I'd stock up on SO many seeds if they weren't limited so I could evenly use them all.

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Gaia
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Honestly, I wouldn't mind if they got rid of the free item (and thus its timer) entirely because the items I get are pretty worthless, and I'd much rather have frequent refreshes of the Mole Market than free but worthless items.

Overall though, I completely agree with the issues laid out in the OP. It is incredibly frustrating that so many items are completely exclusive to the mole market and the mole market stocks a very low quantities (both in terms of copies of a single item as well as the amount of different items). This needs to change cause it is only going to get worse with time and more items are introduced.

I get that it looks all neat on the page now, but I really think, in order to allow for more items and still make it look neat, you simply will need to have different tabs per item category, and perhaps also multiple pages per category.

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I'm not entirely sure where I land on this. On one hand, I understand the frustration of wanting a specific item. but on the other, I disagree with the idea that "the flea market/forums/discord/interacting with other players is not the solution." I absolutely believe it IS the solution. As with most things, you should spend time or money. If you are impatient and want it right away, you can check the FM or forums, maybe pay a mark-up. or you can be patient and wait for it to stock. I prefer this to the way FR for example uses their marketplace, which is more about your internet connection and getting lucky sniping specific things AND waiting for it to show up. They already are miles ahead with the basically unlimited breed/gene changes, which I assume will continue for new breeds and genes. As with many other things, if you need everything Right Away, you are probably going to be disappointed. It's ok to not have everything immediately, and if not, you can also check other resources.

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