Forum - Are the retiring apparel prices correct? [A: YES]

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Are the retiring apparel prices correct? [A: YES]

Edit: Quiche has answered below that they are indeed correct! See the post downthread for the reasoning behind the change.

Can we please get explicit confirmation that the soft-retiring epic-rarity apparel pieces are supposed to be twice the price of their non-retiring lower rarity counterparts?

I can see it making sense either way, but with prices changing constantly and having been bugged in the past, it's very difficult for players to tell when things are intentional vs bugged. I've laid all the changes out below in case staff doesn't have a record handy. You can see how it seems plausible this is a bug. Prices were stated to have been intentionally rebalanced after the initial icerun event, and they remained low during the murkwood and goldsea event. Then, without warning, prices increased again during the darkspine event. The companion price at least was confirmed to be an error. I would just like confirmation on if the apparel price we have now is indeed an intentional increase, or if it was an error during darkspine that was simply overlooked and has been accidentally carried over to this event.

Timeline of events and changes

First Icerun event:

Epic set was twice the cost of the others, everything retires

Companion prices high, all epic rarity, each species had a cheap and expensive color

Feedback deemed prices too high, and we were awarded additional tickets

Murkwood event:

Additional ticket balancing changes, and only the epic set retires
Retiring set price reduced to match the others

Companion prices reduced, different rarity species, each species had a cheap and expensive color

Goldsea event:

No stated changes regarding ticket prices, other feedback changes mentioned
Apparel prices same as during murkwood

Companion prices same as murkwood, lower price to the lower rarity species

Darkspine event:

No feedback changes mentioned
Epic set was twice the cost of the others (same as the first icerun event)

Companion prices back up to the higher icerun prices, lower price to the lower rarity species

Companion prices reduced near the end of the event, stated to be an error

Apparel prices remained high. No word on if it was intentional, or if it was simply overlooked since the OP of the bug report only mentioned the companions

Current Icerun event:

No feedback changed mentioned
Epic set twice the cost of the others

Companion prices use the correct lower prices, one cheap and one expensive recolor. Rarity seems to have some bugs

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2 months ago

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I thought the apparel items were weirdly expensive! Thank you for those screenshots; they prove I'm not going mad!

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I noticed it too, but since the devs seem mia I didn't post about it. The whole thing's a mess, so I guess all we can do is deal with it.

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I would also like to know if this is normal, before buying anything. At the last event, we received 1000 compensation tickets, but I did not find this compensation correct, considering that my friend who had not bought anything had obtained the same as me who had bought a lot of things. In the end, I had still lost a lot of tickets since the 1000 did not even reimburse the loss that I used for nothing, and I did not find it normal that someone who bought things is not even reimbursed for the difference in purchases, and that he receives the same price as someone who had not bought anything and therefore is not impacted. I do not want this to happen again, because it had ruined my gaming experience :/

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Thanks for doing this!

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I would also like to see someone from the team address this for the userbase's peace of mind. TBH, I just pour my tickets into the shop once I have enough for everything, so I never really mind the pricing too much, but I know it's been a major complaint/concern from a lot of others.

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It's been over 2 weeks since the event started and we still have no news... Would it be possible to have a confirmation please ? It doesn't matter if it's that yes it's normal or that no it's a bug, just something that clearly states it...

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@Alaunis @Quiche I'm so sorry to bother, and my apologies for pinging you both but I'm not sure if Quiche is still on vacation? Please let me know if I shouldn't be pinging you, but we had the same issue last event where the bugged companion prices weren't addressed until after I pinged for clarification, so I'm hoping this is helpful to you. I completely understand being busy with dev work and things getting buried on the forums, so I just really want to make sure this hasn't been overlooked.

Can we please get a confirmation on if the retiring apparel prices are correct or not? I have everything laid out for your convenience in the first post, but the quick version is that apparel prices were lower for the murkwood and goldsea events, but then doubled during the darkspine event, along with the bugged companion prices. Companion prices were lowered, apparel was not, and is still doubled for this event. If this is an intentional price raise that will continue going forward, we'd just really like a statement confirming it so we can make our purchases with confidence. Thank you so much and sorry again for the trouble!

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Hi there, thank you for the ping, you're more than welcome to ping when needed.

Just popping in to confirm that these are the correct pricing for the year 2025. I will also go into detail as to why the current pricing was chosen by comparing the first two events. Many other factors at the time of the first year of events played into the pricing being changed.

Cost of first Icerun Event:

The cost of retiring items was a whopping 3225 Icerun Vouchers for all retiring item sets once. Rewards and seasonal pass were buffed and compensation given out later during the event. With 20 items initially retiring this price wall was daunting to cross but the matter of retiring items was addressed in time for the next seasonal event.

Lorfolk should also have their hard work mean something in terms of acquiring Epic items. Without changing the buffs to obtaining vouchers, the cost of items was changed from the Goldsea and Murkwood events in Darkspine event to maintain the cost difference and value between the rarity classes and retiring items.

Based on Icerun's initial pricing, the first Epic set, plus companions was 1,950 Icerun Vouchers.

Cost of second Icerun Event:

In this year's Icerun event, the cost for all item sets alone is 1,900 Icerun Vouchers, a stark difference to the first year event. The cost of retiring items is down to 925 Icerun Vouchers. With no alterations to the buffed rewards, 10x buffed voucher rewards from seasonal pass, the mass of retiring items reduced, these changes allow players to leisurely acquire alternate colouration for items they wish to acquire without feeling intense pressure that this will be the only chance they can get it.

Over the year, the Dev Team has reviewed each seasonal event. This includes how playerbase data has interacted with each one as well as feedback before determining this pricing for the 2025 seasonal events, keeping in mind to tackle balance and longevity of the site going forward.

I hope that helps! Thank you again for reaching out to us.

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@Quiche Thank you so much for the clarification! I really really appreciate it.

Totally understandable to have the epic set cost more. And thank you for taking the extra time to elaborate on the reasoning. (Maybe any future price changes could be noted in the event's announcement post, just so we always know right away if something is intended vs bugged?) Either way, I just really want to say thank you again for letting us know! I'm glad to be able to go purchase my sets now with peace of mind <3

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You're most welcome, I'll take this feedback and relay that changes to seasonal pricing should be announced in the patch notes.

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